EXCLUSIVE: The Full Steven Seagal Story Jenny McCarthy Told Movieline in 1998

When Steven Seagal was sued earlier this week for sexual assault and trafficking women for sex, CBS News dug up an excerpt from a 1998 interview with Movieline where actress Jenny McCarthy appeared to confirm Seagal's tendency for inappropriate behavior. We reached into our back issues to provide you with the entire anecdote.

Movieline's Stephen Rebello conducted the interview with McCarthy to promote her new film BASEketball, and the actress was unusually candid, discussing all the film parts she'd lost, like Mallrats ("Kevin Smith didn't even wait until I was out of the office to start laughing. So rude"), and the ones she'd turned down, like Drew Barrymore's role in Batman Forever ("I didn't want to play a fluff") and Elizabeth Berkeley's in The First Wives Club ("Even though that movie would have let me work with one of my absolute idols, Goldie Hawn, I wouldn't play a girl who sleeps with someone to get fame").

The audition that really wounded her, as Rebello would find out, was the one she had to do in front of Seagal:

When I press her on the subject, the hurt in her voice says she's still freaked. "I went to the audition for Under Siege 2 with, like, 15 other Jenny McCarthys. These girls came in and out of his office and I was last. Steven comes out and goes, 'Hmm, so you're last.' I'm thinking, 'Shouldn't a casting person be doing this?' I go inside his carpet, which has shag carpet and this huge couch, and he's by himself and says, 'Sit on the couch.' I have my [script pages] and I say, 'OK, I'm ready,' but he says, 'No, I want to find out about you.' I knew what was coming. He goes, 'So, you were Playmate of the Year,' and I was trying to go--" Here, McCarthy breaks off and adopts a Laverne & Shirley blue-collar foghorn delivery: "Yeah, but, like, I lived in Chicago, see, and..."

The accent was apparently no turnoff. "I was wearing this very baggy dress," she continues, "which I always wear to auditions, with my hair pulled back. I'm listening to him go on and on about how he found his soul in Asia and is one with himself and whatever. When I said, 'Well, I'm ready to read,' he said, 'Stand up, you have to be kind of sexy in the movie and in that dress, I can't tell.' I stand up and he goes, 'Take off your dress.' I said, 'What?' and he said, 'There's nudity.' I said, 'No, there's not, or I wouldn't be here right now.' He said again, 'There's nudity,' and I said, 'The pages are right in front of me. There's no nudity.' He goes, 'Take off your dress.' I just started crying and said, 'Rent my [Playboy] video, you a**hole!' and ran out to the car." That wasn't quite the end of it. "I'm closing my car door and he grabs me and says, 'Don't you ever tell anybody.' He won't sue me or say anything because he knows it's true. If I saw him today, I would still say, 'You're a f***ing a**hole and I really hope you change your ways.'"

Seagal's lawyer, Marty Singer, said this week about the sex claims: "The lawsuit filed by Kayden Nguyen against Steven Seagal is a ridiculous and absurd claim by a disgruntled ex-employee who was fired for using illegal narcotics." He also called the suit a "complete fabrication without a scintilla of truth."

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Comments

  • Richard says:

    Are you kidding me? Jenny needing cash from Segal?
    Listen asshole it takes a brave woman to even admit this happened. There is NO upside for her only embarrasment and pain in telling. Women talk of these things to warn other women DESPITE the cost to themselves. If Segal started paying women to be quiet he'd be broke.

  • neal says:

    gee wiz Jen, you should have "given it" to him. what's the big deal? all you h-wood sluts know the game so play it if you want to compete in a man's world!

  • biffskippy says:

    I thought you said your rear end was still hurting from last week's NFL interview of early draft-picks. It was reported that you left a slight blood stain on the bench seat at the Santa Monica McDonalds, so I'd back off of the interviews for a while.

  • Steven Seagal says:

    Joe, I thought you had gotten over your anger from our last interview. I apologized and told you as sweetly and sincerely as possible that I would never again set a beer can on top of your head during an interview. It's just that it was a momentary convenience, but was meant as no offense, you l'il head bobber, you.

  • Steven Seagal says:

    Karin Toogood, I remember you well. It seems your breasts were 30AA's, and you had a wart the size of buffalo nickel on your left nipple. You were also loaded up with yeast, enough to put a French bakery to shame. I tried to get you out of my office, but you hid under the couch, screaming obscenities, dripping yeast all over my shag carpet, and I did find that offensive. .
    Let's do lunch. Have your people call my people

  • Kathy says:

    Everyone in Hollywood has known for years what a jerk SS is. I'm in the Biz and I have many friends who refused to have anything to do with him. He treats everyone on his shoots terribly and it's gotten to the point that either women bring a chaperone to auditions with him, or they tell their agents "never, ever submit me for anything with SS."
    He's a horrible joke in Hwood and he should be in jail instead of wearing a sheriffs badge. And yes, he does smells disgusting.He doesn't shower, thinks it saps his "manhood"

  • biffskippy says:

    I thought you said your rear end was still hurting from last week's NFL interview of early draft-picks. It was reported that you left a slight blood stain on the bench seat at the Santa Monica McDonalds, so I'd back off of the interviews for a while.

  • Steven Seagal says:

    I remember you well. You were the girl sitting at the table by yourself at the far end of the canteen on the back lot. You were picking your nose, and when I saw you consume the cointents of your left nostril, I put down my soup spoon and shouted across the canteen that your compulsions were sickening the other diners as well as me. You angrily got up from your table, approached mine and proceeded to wipe one of your boogers on my soup bowl.
    And you have the nerve to say I am something less than divine. It just boggles the mind.
    Would you care to have lunch next week, say on Wednesday? Then I can show you my etchings in my orifice.

  • Seymour Butz says:

    Sure, he'll be on the red carpets at the Academy Awards, but he will be accompanied by a carpet shampooer and a broom.

  • dayze says:

    Hey guys & Gals!
    What you are all forgetting is this....
    She said she told him there was no nudity in the script!
    He kept pushing, she was DISGUSTED and rightfully exited quickly!
    What is it that women are made wrong in the courts for???
    Not getting out of there quickly when they sense trouble.
    She being beautiful has had lots of experience with gross offensive
    offers so sensed it quickly.
    Being a smart girl she got out fast.
    HE THEN FOLLOWED HER TO HER CAR...AND TOLD HER NOT TO SAY ANYTHING!!!
    ANOTHER LECH TRYING TO COVER HIS TRACKS...
    She had the right to LEAVE...
    She also would have been made wrong in court if he HAD GONE AHEAD AND
    ATTACKED HER....IF...SHE HAD NOT...LEFT... IMMEDIATELY!
    Men seem to blame the woman...always.....even if it is a little girl
    getting raped...
    Yet in years past...your great grandmothers, your grandmothers, & mothers were always taught,
    BE NICE!
    PRETTY IS AS PRETTY DOES!
    BE SWEET!
    BE A LADY!
    YOU ARE TREATED THE WAY YOU ACT!!!
    BE POLITE!
    WITH ALL THIS FALSE DATA TRAINED INTO THEM FROM BIRTH UP, THEY THEN WERE THROWN OUT THERE...IN LIFE....AND TOLD....GO FIND A MATE FOR LIFE!
    WITH NO ..TRUE.. INFORMATION OF WHAT TO EXPECT, or how to PROTECT themselves when an aggressor goes too far.
    This TRAINED FROM CHILDHOOD actions never protect you when a lech comes on to you. AND POLITE SOCIETY NEVER TALKED ABOUT THAT SUBJECT. So the women were clueless until attacked, WONDERING WHAT THEY DID WRONG THAT BROUGHT IT ON, and could never speak of it openly because polite society never talked about that either!!!
    So many women have been raped, hurt badly, and killed, even though they were polite, sweet, nice, being ladies, acting correctly etc.
    Then the words thrown at them....YOU REALLY WANTED IT.... when ALL THEY COULD THINK ABOUT AFTERWARD WAS THE PUBLIC HUMILIATION AND THE PHYSICAL PAIN in arm flesh, breast flesh, leg flesh and of course other flesh being torn and torn at after the fact. Feeling used betrayed, lied to, and abused, and last of all dirty all over from the physical mauling from the guy.
    THEY COULD NOT UNDERSTAND WHY ALL THEY HAD BEEN TAUGHT DID NOT WORK!!!???
    (I DO A LOT OF COUNSELING AND HEAR A LOT FROM THESE WOMEN, ALL AGES)
    They are SUPPOSED to ATTRACT A MATE SEXUALLY AND EMOTIONALLY TO...GET...A MATE...BUT THEN GET ATTACKED INSTEAD OF GETTING A MARRIAGE LICENSE!!! They thought they were following the rules!!!
    All of you guys and gals complain and whine and blame Ancestors because they had you illegitimately!!! BLAMING THE WOMAN FOR ...ALL... the
    actions and side effects.
    Wake up guys!!! And Gals!!!
    Blaming women for men's actions does not make it right...!!
    Blaming women for choices of clothes when what women at this age and
    time are taught through movies and TV and what is actually AVAILABLE in the stores because designers are only designing Whore clothes for the General public.
    (Many shopping centers have shut down over the years, because they
    cannot sell that stuff to the older proper business women,
    and AT THAT TIME there were not enough younger ones to keep the
    shops alive.
    Now for some years even the little girls clothes are designed like
    whores, and we wonder why YOUNG ADULTS ARE DRESSING THAT WAY???
    AND YOU BLAME THEM FOR THE WAY THEY DRESS...
    THEY HAVE BEEN DRESSING THAT WAY
    FROM CHILDHOOD!!!THEY DON'T KNOW ANY BETTER!!!)
    THE LADY IN THE PHOTO IS GENERALLY GUIDED BY THE PHOTOGRAPHER ON
    HOW TO SIT, STAND, POSE, ETC. SHE FOLLOWS DIRECTIONS OR SHE
    DOESN'T GET THE JOB.
    WHETHER SS SAID AND DID WHAT SHE SAID HE DID IS BESIDE THE POINT...
    WHAT PEOPLE NEED TO SEE HERE IS THAT SOCIETY IS CHANGING AND DIFFERENT STYLES OF RULES ARE CLASHING.
    In older days, in the better parts of society, the more you liked the girl the more polite you were to her and the less you touched. When you were engaged and about to be married, you walked down the street with ONLY THE LITTLE FINGERS ENTWINED. THE MEN WERE POLITER TO THE WOMEN...IN THE OLDER DAYS.
    IT SHOWED HIS CLASS LEVEL.
    WOMEN CHOSE MEN AS TO HOW THEY COULD CONDUCT THEMSELVES IN SOCIETY AND
    BEHIND CLOSED DOORS. IF THE MAN WAS A GENTLEMAN HE WAS VALUABLE TO
    MARRY, EVEN IF HE COULD NOT SUPPORT HER, SHE STILL RESPECTED HIM AND
    WOULD FALL IN LOVE WITH HIM.
    I taught this rule to one of my sons that had not dated until he was
    16. He asked me why, so I told him the secret to women's hearts and how
    to treat them with respect. I told him, even if you do not want to date
    them, do not treat them badly, or scream at them or be rude to them, as other guys do today. They are out there in life as you are, just trying
    to find a MATE FOR LIFE, WITH NO KNOWLEDGE OR RULES TO GO BY AND THEY
    ARE MAKING MISTAKES JUST AS YOU ARE MAKING MISTAKES.
    He came in 2 weeks later and was saying so excitedly, "Mom! You are right, women just love me, they are all just coming after me!!"
    He was so happy.
    We took a trip to California for a summer school for him. There would be
    ALWAYS from 3 to 8 girls surrounding him walking up the sidewalk. They just adored this Texas boy with his quiet polite manners, and RESPECT FOR THEM.
    THE CLASSES DID NOT GET MUCH DONE, THEY WOULD JUST TRY TO TALK TO HIM.
    IT DID POSE SOME PROBLEMS...They would come to the hotel room at 12:00 midnight knocking on the door trying to get him to come out to have sex with them. Of course I would put a nix on that!!!
    The other guys could not figure out what this skinny guy had that they did not.
    I would explain, manners, etiquette, and showing RESPECT for the women.
    Knowing how to be a real man does not involve sex. Just treat them the
    way you want to be treated.
    With the introduction of Psychiatry into the WORLD SOCIETY the break down of polite actions has become the norm. BE THE WILDEST, RUDEST MOST
    PROTESTING PERSON IS INDICATED AS HOW TO ACT.
    Promoting the ideas of IF IT FEELS GOOD JUST DO IT...!! and you were
    made with those urges, so go ahead and do it!!! and FREE LOVE!!! with
    their controlling most of Hollywood for years from behind the scenes teaching them what to put into the movies.
    Then in the colleges Psych Departments Distributing psychedelic drugs from the psych departments to students to give out to their friends, in experiments, as I saw at my college YEARS AGO IN 1970'S, has been a major part in destroying our BASIC SOCIETY RULES, MORALS,
    GUIDELINES, AND ACTIONS. If it is OK for a school to give it out it must
    be OK.
    When Psychiatry got total control of Russia you saw the total OWNERSHIP OF THE WOMEN'S BODY BY THE GOVERNMENT. Women were taught that they had to have sex with ANYONE to get the job done for the government. They could not say no. Morals were NON EXHISTENT by
    order of the government which was run by psychiatrist from behind.
    Women had no rights to their bodies. Psychiatrist wherever they are promoted that Women were looked on as lower or lesser than men in value.
    Years later in Nazi Germany we saw the same attitudes in the Nazi
    movement which was created by the Psychiatrist there as well, where Nazi's showed 1/2 value of women. Women spies were used sexually to manipulate the people they were trying to get to.
    We see this years later...with the push to break down the
    value of women through sexual exploitations and viewpoints of
    so called freedoms pushed by the movie industry trying to teach
    us through our movies a looser viewpoint to practice.As we all know
    psychiatrist control Hollywood from behind.
    In today's movies, Everyone has sex on a date...so kids think that is
    the thing to do. Orgies are the norm for kids for some years now.
    My sister is a Physician's Assistant. She sees the sexually transmitted
    diseases close up. Herpes of the whole side of the face and throat,
    even in guys from the Rainbow games that are so popular.
    The guy tries to get the most colors
    of lipstick on it in one night.
    Women today have NO CLUE as HOW TO GET A MATE FOR LIFE, with all the mixed ideas taught them.
    YOU ARE BLAMING WOMEN AGAIN!!!
    I taught my sons correctly and the real reason women are trying to have
    sex with them. I also taught my sons that it is THEIR responsibility for birth control.
    The last protection to keep from pregnancy is don't put it in!!!
    They have THAT responsibility.
    Never blame the girl, and don't leave
    the responsibility of birth control to her to TRY TO FIGURE OUT!
    I also teach them, if you don't want to marry her, don't have sex with
    her, accidents happen, and you will be tied to that lady for the rest
    of your life through that child. It will be YOUR OWN FAULT, you could
    have said no.
    I also taught my sons from the 6th grade up, that:
    you never know what her family is like.
    You don't know if she will treat that child right,
    beat it or not feed it properly, letting it go hungry. Many women feel
    guilt or anger at being trapped by a child and abuse them or show lack
    of love to them. (My brother's wife did that to their oldest of 4 boys.
    It was as if they both hated him for being alive, and treated him so
    his whole life.)
    I also taught them, You also don't know If they want you as a son in law or not, and if they don't want her to be pregnant and force her to have an abortion.
    That is YOUR CHILD, NOT SOMEONE ELSES, BUT YOURS...!!!
    I then would teach them exactly what an abortion was like in VIVID
    DETAIL.
    I explained what some of the women I counseled had conveyed to me.
    One years ago said that they injected a strong saline solution into the womb.
    It would burn the baby so badly, without their skins being formed well
    yet, that after 3 days the baby would put off a chemical that made her
    go into labor and the baby would come out all burned all over,
    still alive,
    but chemically burned.
    SOME CAN STILL LIVE AFTER THAT. IN THE LATE 1960's I heard of a set
    of twins that were grown, in Dallas, Texas, that when they
    were aborted that way, burned, but still alive, and the nurse took
    compassion on them and took them home and raised them as her own.
    The people said they had scars all over them, but were healthy all
    the other ways.
    I would explain that to my sons, that it was like when they swam in the
    ocean, and had a cut and it burned. That was what it felt like, only all over their body, for 3 days solid until that baby aborted itself. If that was the method the lady would use, that WAS THEIR BABY, BEING BURNED, NOT THE NEIGHBORS, OR SOME CASUAL AQUAINTENCE, BUT THEIR BABY..
    I then also explained to my sons, the other form of abortion in those days.
    As one person had cried to me when she had an abortion. They had used a
    small device with a round spoon on the end that had a razor blade edge.
    They used this to chop the baby into pieces and the baby would then put off the chemical to force contractions to come out.
    The lady said as she got up from the bed she glanced over into the tray
    where the baby was still moving with its stomach cut open, its leg chopped partly the way through, its shoulder cut open. It was still alive and moving in pain. She started crying and
    the nurse grabbed it and ran out of the room so she could not see it.
    The stupid thing is that even after this the lady still refused to use birth control, because she had been religiously taught she should NOT
    have sex and it would be easier for her to go ahead when she had a choice.
    She was crying to me...after she had just had another abortion.
    I explained to my sons, don't make the mistakes of having YOUR BABY hurt or killed.
    If you do make a stupid mistake, I will help you raise it. That is your and my flesh and blood, and I will help you. But don't go out there and be stupid on purpose. It is your responsibility.
    THAT IS THE IDEA THAT PEOPLE DO NOT GET!!!! Life's actions its side
    effects.

  • Susan says:

    You sir, sound like the only one on here who has thought this completely through. You also sound like you are intelligent and can spell, unlike most of the others. If so many people "Know" Segal, why haven't we heard any big stories like this, until now?

  • 2ManyWords says:

    OMG I think I need ADD meds to read this post...supposed to be a comment, not a novel!!!! Sheesh! Anyway, I have always disliked Steven Segal. NEVER liked his movies...No acting skills whatsoever! Always thought he was a douchebag. Don't know what any woman found sexy in him because I certainly never thought he was sexy. Maybe it was the ponytail....giddyup!
    Stacey

  • sqt says:

    The story is believable because it just isn't hard to picture Segal as a complete douche. Let's not forget this guy gave his ex-wife a black eye.
    But I understand the flack McCarthy is getting here. She used her body to get a foot in the door in the entertainment industry, and then wants to be indignant that people only see her as a sex object. She took a shortcut by posing in Playboy and didn't earn any acting credentials by proving she has any actual talent so it's hard to take her seriously when she protests over "fluff" parts. She seems like fluff personified.
    That said. I believe her.

  • joeschmoe says:

    What business does anyone (commenting here) have judging either of these two on the basis of an (12 year?) old article? Both of these people have made sacrifices to get where they are.
    Maybe they've sacrificed too much and are trying to get back to sanity. Who knows. Just living in LA can make you nutzo, much less working in the movie business.
    These two share a vulnerability that their macho exteriors are trying to hide. That could make any kind of communication very unpredictable for both of them.
    I wish the best for both of them. May they actually find some rest from the madness.

  • Rick says:

    rumor has it at southern ill university where jenny mccarthy went to college is that she loved taking it up the ass. she was a total slut back then...as rumor says. i had some friends that went there and partied with her and those rumors are not just mere rumors but hard facts. now she is trying to portray herself as a clean wholesome woman but her classmates know differently. she is just looking for attention...again but this time without the mess.

  • JamesRWII says:

    I'm still trying to figure out what is so wrong with asking Jenny to take her dress off . . . I would ask her right now but I expect to get slapped for it. Worth a shot anyway.

  • Dan says:

    I feel bad for McCarthy being treated this way. I only wish she had dedicated her life to fighting real evil like this, instead of her false crusade against a non-existent alleged link between vaccines and autism.

  • Seth says:

    I believe Jenny, I mean, who wouldn't believe someone who thinks vaccines are the root of all autism?

  • Jeremy says:

    My favorite part of the story is how JM pretexts with passing up a role in "The First Wives Club" on principle because the character uses sex to get sociopolitical status. At the audition with SS, when she wanted to read, SS wanted something else, and JM "knew that was coming." Then she sat through all kinds of "found my soul in asia" pretext, and then when SS asked her to remove her dress, she argued with him about whether it was necessary or "in the script" even though she'd already made up her mind...
    Even when she tells her side of the story JM passes up several opportunities to save herself some grief. Please remember "all the world's a stage." and "all publicity is good publicity." Remember to click all the ads! After you get all huffy over this stuff you'll be much more likely to purchase something impulsively seeking comfort. If you read about someone else getting manipulated, and in the process you are being manipulated, isn't that just delicious?

  • Mike says:

    You are so full of shit about your little abortion bit.
    Even more so of the story of the twins. Abortion has strict
    laws that clearly state that after the first trimester
    the fetus cannot be aborted unless you have a valid
    medical reason. It would not be possible for the children to survive under any circumstance this early on.
    Your fear tactics simply cannot work in this day and age
    anyone can just so a quick search on the internet and do
    their own research and see that your a liar.

  • Sandra Lords says:

    Hollywood glasses sylist Cheryl Shuman was threatened with death by Seagal and Seagal hired two thugs to beat her up in her garage. You can google Cheryl Shuman and read about it.

  • Av says:

    Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. in this case, that isn't you.

  • TD says:

    Steven Seagall treats objects like women

  • Steven Seagal says:

    i like tuna salad
    -steven