David Hyde Pierce on The Perfect Host, Fearlessness and Living With Niles Crane
What was your reaction to the film the first time you saw it?
[Long pause] What was my reaction? I remember we were at the producer's house in L.A. My agent and I were sitting on a sofa watching it on a big screen. [Pause] I want to give you an absolutely honest answer, because I... [Pause] I was very pleased, but I had to see it again. It's a lot to take in. Ironically a lot of audience members said they love seeing it a second time because it's one of those movies where everything's a surprise, but you go back through it and say, "OK, he knew this? What? Oh, really?" And you have to chart all that stuff. Also, the very first time I saw it, it wasn't completed. Still, I thought, "Oh, I'm very pleased with it." When I finally got to see the final edit -- with all the music and tightening everything up -- I just loved it. I thought, "Oh, yeah -- this is exactly what I thought we were all making." I was very pleased.
And your performance? You think you got Warwick? Was he was presented fairly?
Yes. That's what I meant, that's what I did, and Nick put that on the screen.
Do you ever look back at work? If Frasier is on TV while you're flipping through channels, would you stop and watch it?
Absolutely. Absolutely. I love that show. Part of it is just affection. I love the people, I love the writing. It takes me to a place where we were all having such a good time together. Now it's been so long that I will laugh out loud. Some of the lines, I hear them just before about to happen, so it makes me laugh. Or they surprise me again. Such great stuff.
What's your relationship with Niles Crane all these years later -- that inseparability that comes from playing a long-running hit-TV-show character?
It's less like that now. First of all, it's been so long since the show. Maybe it's because I've left that world and I'm here in New York doing theater, so I'm more in tune to audiences coming to stage doors and seeing plays that I'm in and talking about the characters I've just done -- not necessarily Niles. But my relationship with the character? I'd have to say I just have nothing but affection for him. We had such a good time together, and when people do come up and talk to me, they're so enthusiastic and affectionate -- not just about me and the character, but the show. So many times -- it just continues to happen, I think because of all the reruns -- people come up to me and say, "You got me through the worst times." Which is not something you're thinking about when you're making a sitcom.
I'm very close with Niles, I think, but I'm glad to step away. One of the blessings I got from that show was enough financial security that I'm able to choose what work I do instead of take whatever comes. And therefore, I don't choose to do characters who are like that. I've done him! If that's what people want to see, then that's fine. But I don't have to do it. That said, one of the things I loved about The Perfect Host is how it took a very similar kind of character and then moves him in a very different direction.
Is there something to be said for the transitory nature of theater? That the show and the performances are one of a kind -- here today, gone tomorrow?
Well, I did Spamalot for a year and a half.
OK, so a few months to a year or more. But then...
Yes, there is. There is some old Japanese saying about a teacup that's so fragile that if you touch it, it will break. But that's what makes it valuable -- its fragility. You can't make 100 of them and bounce them off the floor. That's what the theater is to me. It forgoes posterity. It's about all of us in the room right now, and I love that. Ultimately, without getting too philosophical, that's the nature of life, too. Who knows? Tomorrow you might get hit by a... cow. Or something. That's less likely. But on some deep, fundamental, philosophical level, I really believe it about the theater -- about being in the live moment with the audience.
Is there one theatrical role -- or maybe a historical figure -- that you want the opportunity to play at some point in your career?
[Very long pause] You're not the first person to ask me that, but you're the first person in a long time to ask me that. I hoped I would maybe have an answer, but I don't tend to think that way. I sort of look at what I'm given.
Let me rephrase the question: Is there a performance that influenced you enough to enter this trade that you look forward to maybe playing yourself?
That's interesting. [Very long pause] I guess it would be... Nothing's coming to mind specifically, but I guess it would have to be something from Chekhov, because Chekhov is so rich. But I've also enjoyed creating new work -- creating with and author and a director and cast. A new character. All the great Shakespearean roles, like Hamlet... I never felt like I had anything to say with Hamlet. I think there are other people with a million things to bring to Hamlet, and I just never really did. So I don't have those kinds of things.
Are there any directors you hope to have the chance to collaborate with again?
I worked with Steven Soderbergh. I love him; I'd work with him again in a heartbeat. Same thing with Mike Nichols. Oh, gosh. This is hard for me! It's so funny; I really don't think this way. I don't project myself that way, and I probably should.
I put you on the spot!
It's not on the spot, really. I think a lot of people have answers to those questions, and I'm startled that it's been probably three years since anyone asked me and I still don't have an answer to the question. I guess I live more in the moment.
The Perfect Host opens Friday in limited release.
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Comments
Apart from a few chat shows and minor film appearances I really only know David Hyde Pierce from Frasier so I am really looking forward to seeing this tomorrow.
It is refreshing to read an interview where the person really seems to take the time to think about their reply rather than come out with some pat answers.
It is also nice to read that for all of his theatre experience he isn't hung up on roles he never got.
Thanks for another great interview.
Fun interview to read. Makes the NYTimes interview w Pierce look like even more of a joke.