Todd Phillips on Due Date, Mel Gibson and Why He Hates Snarky Blog Headlines

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Where did all of the Two and a Half Men stuff come from? Why that show out of all shows?

Again, I just think it's to illustrate just how completely ridiculous... Listen, the show is great. It's a fine show... well, it's a good show.

That's a good way to describe it. It's very popular.

It is. But I would doubt that anybody has been inspired to become an actor because of that show. So we just thought what a ridiculous concept that it is [Ethan's] frame of reference. That it's the reason he wanted to become an actor. And even if that does exist, even if someone is like that, they would never say that's why they wanted to become an actor.

When there's an actual Two and a Half Men scene in he film, did you direct that or did the regular director of the show?

They directed it. I was there that day and I walked Zach through what he had to do, but we wanted it to feel and look exactly like the show. I didn't want to step on any toes.

The car chase scene with the Mexican police comes out of nowhere compared to the rest of the movie. Where did that come from?

It's hard to say where ideas originate or come from. We're thinking of it more as when we're thinking of a complete story. To be quite honest, I don't like to hear that it comes out of nowhere, but I know what you mean as far as suddenly there's this big action scene in the middle of a comedy.

I didn't necessarily mean it in a bad way.

I understand, I think we just got started off on the wrong foot. (Laughs) That was my fault, but I do understand it. You know, I smoke a lot of pot when I'm conceiving of or writing these movies and making these movies. It's hard to always justify everything. You know, it's really tough.

I felt it took the film to a different level.

We try to make it real but with absurd situations. And even in The Hangover and my other films, it's sort of what I try to do. The characters, we try to make them living in the real world but put them through absurd situations.

Was it satisfying that The Hangover was such a huge hit considering that you walked away from Borat, which also became a huge hit?

Well, I could have done both. I have good feelings about Borat. I was still involved in Borat; I was nominated for an Academy Award for writing with Borat. And I love the movie and I'm proud of my involvement in Borat. So they're separate things for me and it's not as if one happened the other wouldn't happen or vice versa. To me it's all part of a body of work.

Is it tough coming back for a sequel to The Hangover? I mean, these guys wind up in this impossible situation in the first one. Is it hard to find a way for something else crazy to happen to these four guys or does it just flow like it did the first time?

Well, it's been flowing for us and it's not necessarily going to follow the same idea. We're in the middle of making that movie, but I think people are going to be surprised with how much of a... How do I put this without getting some f*cking snarky feedback in the headline?

You've already pretty much sealed your fate, the headline's going to be "Todd Phillips Doesn't Want Your Snarky Headline." It's already a done deal so anything you say now is not going to change that.

(Laughing) No... I think people are going to be surprised at how much this holds up to the first one. That's all. Honestly, I don't feel pressure, It's kind of the opposite. I feel pressure when we're standing outside some strip club at five in the morning in Las Vegas, shooting a scene, and I'm looking at my camera guy going, "This is really funny but is anybody ever going to see this movie?" That's a different pressure and that's real pressure. In a weird way the expectations make it liberating. It's like, "All right, I know I'm making a movie that people are at least going to show up and see." That's a big part of the battle. So, in a weird way, it's the opposite of pressure.

I swear I wasn't going to ask anything more about Mel Gibson situation...

Oh boy, here we go.

Do you think it's true that any press is good press?

No, I don't! I don't subscribe to that at all. Particularly in comedy filmmaking where so much of what we do relies on surprise. So, no, I don't believe any press is good press. And I don't mean that I'm talking about from a PR stand, like this is bad for the image of The Hangover. I'm talking more about comedy just works better when you're taking people by surprise, not talking about it on a blog six months before we even shoot a scene. You know what I mean?

Well I also have to imagine it's frustrating for you because you have a new movie coming out this weekend and you want to talk about that.

It's not that part that's frustrating. It's really not. I'm sure if people had heard we were doing a cameo with Mike Tyson in The Hangover, it would have been the same sort of nonsense. I just feel like, hey, let's just do our thing and let's talk about it after. Disagree with it or agree with it after, but to pick things apart before they're even done and people make assumptions about how it's going to be done or what the spirit of it is being done, that's the frustrating part. Certainly not answering questions about it.

Anything you regret about one of your films? Something you wish you could go back and change?

There's so many. I think any filmmaker looks back and thinks, "Boy, if we only had four hours more on that day when the sun was going down," or, "If we only spent more time and went back."

Some directors balk at a question like that.

They balk at it?

Well, someone like James Cameron who says that he refuses to look back.

Well, yeah, but I'm kind of balking at it, too, by not giving you one in particular. I do think that there is stuff, particularly in comedy, you can always push things further. You can always do it another way. I agree with him, there's nothing I would look back on Avatar, either, and do differently. I think he did it beautifully. I'm sure when I re-watch Old School there are things where I go, "God, if I just had more time that day or if we would have just pushed this scene even further."

Speaking of Avatar, Hangover 2 is not going to be in 3-D, is it?

No.

OK, good.

You don't like 3-D?

I like it in moderation.

Let's pretend I said "yes" -- which I'm telling you that it's not -- every movie comes out and you have a choice to see it in 3-D or not, right? I'm actually asking, you can go see Jackass not in 3D, correct?

I'm not sure 100 percent, but I believe so.

It's got to be because there are not enough theaters to even have done the business that Jackass did, I would think.

What's funny about Jackass, that's actually a movie that was fun in 3-D because they actually filmed it with 3-D cameras as opposed to the upconvert.

Oh, right. We wouldn't be upconverting The Hangover. I don't even know what that means, "upconvert." It gives me a headache just thinking about it. Why is it called "upconverting"?

I wouldn't want to be the person who coined that phrase, it does kind of make me angry.

Everything makes me angry today; everything is going to make me crazy today.

I know! As soon as I started talking to you, you were angry.

I know, I know. I apologize. I just feel, tonally speaking, how movies have a certain tone or comedies have a certain tone, I feel like websites do have a tone. And the tone of the Movieline website seems very high school to me. Does that make sense? I'm not telling you to agree or not, I'm just saying that's where that is coming from.

I understand what you're trying to say.

I'm making it worse.

No, you're not. I enjoyed this. I hope it wasn't too bad for you.

No, this was a pleasure. For real. I liked that when you remembered something in the movie you started laughing like a stoner -- that's how I am.

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Comments

  • Scraps says:

    I always thought Seinfeld should have had an episode or two exclusively of Kramer driving across country to fulfill his dream of acting and starring on 'Murphy Brown'. The Synopsis of 'Due Date' reminds me of that. Plus, Kramer would undoubtedly be on the "no fly list" in the post 9/11 world.

  • NP says:

    How could someone who writes comedy completely fail to understand Movieline's sense of humor?

  • Gideon says:

    The criticism about the hateful tone for Movieline is not necessarily unwarranted (see "Movieline's Stephanie Zacharek vs. Inception") but you have my permission to shit on Todd Phillips all you want. The guy knows how to get butts on the seats, so kudos for that, but The Hangover was a huge missed opportunity.

  • Peter Atencio says:

    I don't understand the point of this interview, it seems to just be going over a bunch of (potentially plot-spoiling?) jokes from a movie that isn't even out yet.

  • Kirk says:

    Amazing how his uncomfortable humor comes out even in an interview. Loved reading this!

  • SunnydaZe says:

    Todd, you come across as a hypocrite by creating antisocial comedy films and then saying a movie site can't be snarky. Can dish it out but you can't take it? Some of the writers and commenters on this site are the best joke writers in the business. When so many movie sites are run by high school kiss-asses this is the one place to find the true biting sarcasm the current film industry deserves. Of course we don't like a lot of movies or tv shows because most SUCK. But Movieline is champion to films like yours and shows like Mad Men. Here is your snarky headline> "Todd Phillips is a Douche". Wrote that myself and didn't even have to ask for my English teacher's help....

  • SunnydaZe says:

    BTW, where's Old No. 7 when you really need him?

  • Relaaaax says:

    He clearly understands the "humor" of Movieline. He was merely expressing his opinion (the same way Movieline writers express their opininions). I found his candor refreshing. I also respect the fact that he did the interview even after finding out it was for Movieline. A lot of "hollywood assholes" would have just been like, "next". He is far from a hypocrite. Kudos.
    You guys did a great interview. Good job.

  • Mike Ryan says:

    To tell the truth, I really enoyed talking with him. His honesty was refreshing. I'm glad that you picked up on that.

  • SunnydaZe says:

    High School kiss-ass. (Sarcasm alert. Maybe we should put all sarcastic remarks in red so people don't get confused cause I damn sure ain't gonna do this> 😉
    But, really, he insulted this site in the worst way and you found that refreshing? Do you think he would have found it refreshing if you had said his films are offensive, juvenile tripe?
    He said we are all bitter people who hate movies!

  • Mike Ryan says:

    If that's how he feels? Yes, I have no problem with him stating his opinion. Personally, I think his opinion is wrong, and I told him that -- but I'll take a discussion like that any day of the week as opposed to a pre-packaged statement created in a PR department. The insult itself wasn't refreshing, but his honesty certainly was.

  • anna says:

    Zach Galifiankis and Todd Phillips Talk "Due Date," Their Playlists and Lilith Fair @ARTISTdirect http://bit.ly/90RylQ

  • SunnydaZe says:

    Well said. The issue is this> If you are going to be a "nothing is sacred go-for-broke" comedian don't insult others of your kind. If Christopher Nolan had made the same remarks it would have been understandable.
    This is like (get ready for some hyperbole) Richard Pryor saying George Carlin is a bitter, snarky bastard.
    And that's just my opinion, man. 😉

  • Patrick McEvoy-Halston says:

    Re: Would it make you happy to get Mel Gibson out-of-the-way early? I’m not really sure what you can add at this point. Do you have a favorite Mel Gibson movie? I’m a bit partial to Bird on a Wire.
    I think Apocalypto, probably. Have you seen it?
    He responded to your dance of herring by smacking you (Apocalypto-like) with a sword-fish. It's a bit Jon Stewart to Tucker Carlson on Crossfire, except without Carlson's retort. Regarding high school, I wonder if the problem he most has with Movieline is that it smacks of being mother-loved, front-in-center, cheerful preppy-playful / skeptic, when he's bonding in the back with unspoiled sons of the father-spanked, working class.

  • Brad says:

    Your interview spoiled a bunch of stuff and plot points. It's one thing if he does it in his answer, but your questions were like "This part was cool, don't you think?"
    Try a spoiler warning at the start of the thing plz?

  • Kristen says:

    He kind of comes off as an abrasive guy with an insensitive demeanor yet I can’t help but like him. Whether or not individuals rank him high on the list of “quality directors” in Hollywood, he certainly gets the job done and has developed a virtuous rapport with many of the actors he’s worked with. Maybe not Mel Gibson, though.

  • sissi212 says:

    It's unbelievable how honest and straightforward this Director is. I loved the interview and can't wait to see the movie.

  • KevyB says:

    Should I be surprised that he writes while smoking too much pot? Because I laughed maybe twice throughout The Hangover. I seriously cannot see what was so funny about that movie. It's all been done before. And this one doesn't appear to be any different. If it wasn't for Zach's serious awesomeness, nobody would've thought twice about that movie, and he wouldn't even be around to bitch about Movieline.

  • Vijay Prince says:

    how sweet is corny that much sweet are corny jokes