Bullying Inception Fans Turn Wrath on 11-Year-Old Movie Critic
We at Movieline know a thing or two about the tsunami of bile that accompanies even the slightest dissent from the cult of Inception -- the taunting, abusive, bullying, emphatic hate ignited by a negative review. And then along came Jackson Murphy, a/k/a "Lights Camera Jackson," an 11-year-old online movie critic who dared to take his own Inception disappointment live on CBS. All I can say is, "Welcome to the club, Jackson!" And also: "Who the hell are these people?"
On one level it's clear that readers from infamous child-tormenting bastion 4chan have moved on to a new 11-year-old victim after their much publicized battle against Jessi Slaughter. That's to be expected. (Don't hack us!) But see if you can spot the clear delineation between those folks and the ones who are really just piling on in the name of Christopher Nolan's blockbuster because, well, that just what they do?
You have to go to CBS's YouTube page to actually watch the video (if we're going to bash anyone, how about a network that disables embedding of its morning show segments?), but the reactions are free for all to see. Fly, meet sledgehammer:
what an idiot...why does he feel the need to SHOUT EVERY WORD AT YOU and why does he repeat "visually stunning" like a trillion times? does that think that it makes him sound a little bit more professional than he actually is? which is not at all? and i'm 12 and i thought inception was a phenomenal movie with a brilliant plot that i could understand well, thanks.
WTF is going on...what did i just watch>??? how can this be happening...this kid is MORE confusing the INCEPTION!!!
Jesus Christ, stupid Americans. My brother is 8 and he understood Inception perfectly.
make that kid watch Salò, or the 120 Days of Sodom
Hey kid, im 12, just saw inception. and i f*cking got it okay! i could go on explaining how wrong you are about inceptions plot but i won't. i saw romana and beezus, well, i watched half of it and walked out of the thearter bcuz it was so bad. p.s. ru on cocaine or sumthin cuz ur voice is rlly f*ckin annoying and you look like your about to explode
Having an 11-year-old review inception is like having a dung beetle review Popular Mechanics.
This kid belongs in marketing, talks like a pro but in context f*cking retarded.
Great! An eleven year old with an opinion! Let's put him on CBS.
Salt is better then Inception derp
puberty before tv pls
Maybe after he hits puberty he'll able to understand a classic like inception.
theres a reason why you dont get the movie, is because you are 11. watch the movie in 8 years and you will get it
this is terrible...who would give an 11 year old kid crack and the ability to speak like a douchebag? Good job kid, you're a wunderkind in hackery
VISUALLY STUNNING. Unlike that little...kid?
if only his mother gave him milk instead of red bull as a child, he just might have had a valid opinion of films.
oh and if he thought Inception was confuzing, i want to see him get Primer.
Anything is easy to follow than Inception? What about Primer?
He didn't understand Inception because HE'S 11 YEARS OLD!
I disagree with him when he says kids his age will find it confusing. I saw Inception again today and as I was getting out of the theater, I overheard a kid around Jackson's age talking about his interpretation of the ending with his dad (I think it's his dad) so that kid clearly got what's going on.
so the kid on inception says he's too DUMB to understand the movie, thus give it a bad grade
Ramon and Faggot gets better review than Inception. Kill this kid with fire.
Ramona gets a B..._Inception_ gets a C...I'm at a loss for words.
his is bullsh*t ,inception is a C ,wtf its supposed to be a A+
Okay seriously, why would anyone listen to him? He's 11 years old. No wonder he couldn't understand Inception. His little brain couldn't stay focused for more than a few minutes at a time.
The Inception music score is good too. I guess he is too young to understand music score.
What are you smoking? Kung Fu Panda barely counts as an action film . . . Inception was terrific and has a wonderfully developed plot. Your grading scale is also ridiculously flawed . . . you didn't like SALT that much, said it was kind of boring, and yet it scored higher than a Kids Movie you raved about. It's a good thing you have a few years before people start taking your critiques seriously.
Future Armond White. Prepare yourselves.
Anyone who goes to school with this kid, could you beat him up?
It's not all bad, though! "Unfortunately I agree with him about Page's character," one commenter writes, while another adds, "In all fairness, he's no worse than a lot of 20 and 30 year old critics online."
OK, it's pretty much all bad.
· 11-Year-Old Critic on Salt, Inception [CBS via Videogum]
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Sorry, but this one I can get behind:
"Great! An eleven year old with an opinion! Let’s put him on CBS. "
Dear ST,
I agree that some "Inception" fans have been unreasonable. But, it's also important to note fair and reasonable questions and concerns. I don't want Christopher Rosen's head or for him to lose his job. I do, think, that his prediction was poorly reasoned, and "Salt" almost certainly will have lower final domestic gross. He just reacted to the changing numbers by saying commenters were being unreasonable, without acknowledging the flaws in his own reasoning (though he did revise his predictions).
I'd also note that what's done on this site aren't slight notes of dissent. Stephanie's score was much more negative than many other critics, and Chris Rosen's prediction almost certainly would have been in the minority if we polled Hollywood insiders and bloggers. That doesn't mean they should be attacked. I think it's completely permissable for Stephanie to pan the film and Chris Rosen to make predictions that it wouldn't be as successful as another action movie. It's just that what's seen on this site doesn't demonstrate what you purport it does--stuff like the comments on Lisa Schwarzbaum's review in EW which hammered her for giving a B+ to the movie show that.
Movieline should hire him to team up with the ginger they have reviewing movies now. They appear to be on the same intellectual plane.
Kid was very generous with his Inception grade.
I still believe these guys are not Nolan fans per se, but more left over Dark Knight fans. This giant tumbling frenzy of fanboyism didn't exist to this extent before Dark Knight, and is not as heavy with Inception.
They should make the little punk review Human Centipede. The only review I'll listen to from an 11 year old is how the McNuggets are that day. Gene Siskel is rolling over in his grave.
Gene Shalit's mustache is rolling over in its grave.
oh, this is good. Going off on an 11 year old and pretend you're a 12 year old. Easy to tell your ages. Kids have much more favorite places to go than here and speak/type a few years behind your gay 20s or 30s.
Now that the truth is opened on you, the kid gives his opinion and is not being personal on you. So, why are you acting like a bunch of perverted child molesters? Just get in on the fun and give your opinion on the movie.
"If" the kid is giving immature opinions, we as adults or you pretending mature for your age kids can overlook his bad reviews.
Grow up whatever your age and keep it clean in here. Fowl language is an inability to speak more intelligently. Do some mind developing tasks and talk like a real white man.
My term "white" was not racially motivated. It was the profile of the 2-3 pretending people that were profiled as 20-30 year old white males, AKA white trash.
Black men in that age group or even 12 if will, speak much more respectfully of other's opinions.
you know what? this site is a fucking joke.
potty mouth
You know what's sad? It's not an 11-year giving his opinion of a movie. It's the fact that he's actually more interesting and intelligent than the paid commentators on this site.
Going off on an 11-year old is despicable. Comparing his treatment to your own, when you've made objectively bad box-office predictions and showed clear favouritism to one kind of film over another is also despicable. But I get it. You guys were wrong, and now instead of admitting you were wrong, you just get even more defensive. It's like the Bush years encapsulated.
Trace stop complaining about Inception, we get it you didn't like it. Move on and go do something constructive with your life.
I totes agree.
I agree with Bob, these people are mostly Dark Knight freaks, the types who spend their free time trolling on forums at IMDb and other film sites. The rabid ones are lifeless geeks, aka fanboys. Of course I'm only referring to the freaks who do things like trashing an 11 year old for voicing his opinion, I'm not referring to people who simply enjoyed Inception.
I'd like to point something out again, people who dislike Inception dislike it because they do understand it and realize that it's a pretentious movie with a plot that is ridden with holes. The people I know who like it don't seem to realize how absurd the movie is, they just like the concept, and the CGI. I would say that the Inception fans are the ones who don't understand the movie. If they did, they would realize that it's just another mediocre, mega budget piece of CGI with a little acting thrown in.
Brian,
Why do we have to go to insulting people? I'd disagree respectfully.
1. Just like the CGI? There's definitely CGI, but Nolan put a lot of emphasis on doing as much work in camera as possible. The zero gravity fight wasn't primarily CGI. The tilted sets weren't CGI.
2. I admired Joseph Gordon Levitt, Marion Cotillard, Tom Hardy, and Cillian Murphy, personally. I loved the rivalry between Eames and Arthur. I was persuaded by Mal's madness.
3. "People who dislike Inception dislike it because they do understand it and realize that it's a pretentious movie with a plot that is ridden with holes." I think this generalization is dubious. David Edelstein and Rex Reed deemed the movie confusing and barely lucid respectively. ("Inception manages to be clunky and confusing on four separate levels of reality"..."I'd like to tell you just how bad Inception really is, but since it is barely even remotely lucid, no sane description is possible. "). In contrast, James Berardinelli insisted it's not difficult to follow if you pay attention. Similarly, Kris Tapley and Anne Thompson were puzzled by the reviews that deemed it difficult to understand. Anne gave it an "A" and James and Kris gave it 3.5 stars. Frequent complaints included things like a lack of emotional investment, the dreams in the movie not being dream like, and overload. But most of these critiques didn't go on about plot holes. David Edelstein perceived it to be impersonal and complained about the tone. John Anderson complained about the lack of feeling: "By convoluting the various planes of experience, by overlapping and obscuring ostensible realities and ostensible dreams, Mr. Nolan deprives us the opportunity of investing emotionally in any of it." This is a problem with the lack of human investment, not a demonstration of plot holes. From another negative review, "Inception delivers dazzling special effects and a boatload of stars, but it sags and eventually buckles under the weight of its complicated premise." Andrew from Salon: "For the most part "Inception" is a handsome, clever and grindingly self-serious boy-movie, shorn of imagination, libido, spirituality or emotional depth." Again, feelings, not plot holes.
Stephanie did complain about the projections. She asked where they came from. But their presence is explained in the second Paris dream, and discussed in the confrontation after Saito is shot. When Ariadne makes Paris bend onto itself, the people that inhabit their dreams stare at her. In the confrontation between Cobb and Arthur, Arthur explains Fisher's been trained by an extractor to defend himself. Consequently, his projections are militarized.
I'm not interested in making generalizations about detractors or supporters. One problem in discourse about this movie is that so much of it is about people who like it and those who don't--ultimately the most relevant questions are the work itself. Making accusations about people doesn't resolve them.
Brian,
What would you make of this?
http://movie-critics.ew.com/2010/07/20/inception-why-i-didnt-get-it/
This critic confesses to not getting the movie, and he's not raving about it. He was mixed-negative in videos on NY1 and the blog earlier. He deemed it "a movie of moments" and thought of it more as a game than a movie.
No, the world must realize the horrors of Inception!!!
Those people talking trash about an 11-year-old and his opinion about a movie are fucking ridiculous.
I thought Inception was alright, but I would not expect an 11-year-old to like it. So, I don't think the kid should be trashed (though you have to admit his coached voice is grating) but should he really be lauded? Could someone explain the entertainment value in this? I don't see it. I guess I don't LOVE kids as much as movieline.
purely semantics. however the training routines for size and strength can be totally different...