The Verge: Ashley Springer
You used to work in a casting office, didn't you?
I was a casting intern for four years, and I learned a lot. The best thing I got to do was that they let me be the reader in the room a lot, and that was a huge learning experience for me. I was working in one of the best casting offices in New York, so all the best actors in the city who had to audition came in to audition, and I'd get to do scenes with them. Just seeing what worked and what didn't inside the room was really illuminating. When people came in who were great character actors, regardless of whether they'd get the part, you could see from their audition, "OK, this is why they work a lot." They'd give a hell of an audition every time. It was pretty inspiring.
Do any of them ever recognize you now? Are they like, "Hey, didn't I read for you before?"
People my age do a lot. The thing is, people were appreciative of somebody's attempt to actually play the film with them. It happens frequently that you go in and there's a good reader, but oftentimes there isn't, and it makes your job so much more fun and more interesting when you're reading with somebody who's trying to be in the scene with you.
Now that you've been on that side of the room, do you ever leave your own auditions and wonder what exactly they're saying when you step out of the room?
I try not to think about it. [Laughs] It was never the case of people would leave the audition and you'd make fun of them -- it wasn't a horror show by any means. I just don't want to think of that whole aspect of it. I'm generally happy if I feel like I did the best I could for the role, and when I don't feel that way, that's when I'm not happy with an audition. It's just about trying to let go of things that aren't under your control, which is a learned skill, I think.
You've been to Sundance a few times now, which is pretty out-of-control.
There's just so much going on. You have to do all this press business, so there's lot of photo-taking and interviewing, and that's not my forte. [Laughs] I don't like having my photo taken that much in that type of venue, where you have to look nice. If you're an actor, you have to have the camera around, but you're putting your attention on something else, and that's acting. I'm not concentrating on, "What do I look like as a human being?"
You performed as a magician before you were an actor. Did you have an outsized stage character for that?
I definitely had a character when I would do magic, but it was never, "Aaaah, I am the master of the elements!" It was closer to myself. Generally, the magic that I did was sleight-of-hand stage magic in the vaudeville tradition -- I would usually do a ten-minute piece set to music, the type of thing that doesn't really exist all that much anymore. Usually, these guys would do their routine and they'd be part of a bill with jugglers and clowns and whatnot. It was like a little piece of theater as opposed to a bunch of tricks.
Where would you perform?
I would travel around and perform at lots and lots of magic conventions where I'd be part of the bill. I started performing around the country when I was nine, I performed in Japan, things like that. It's not like there's a big market for it these days.
Is there a natural arc from magician to actor?
Yeah, I think so. I had this coach for a number of years when I was a kid who helped me shape the whole thing -- he was a Broadway actor named Robert Fitch. He'd been in a large number of Broadway shows and he was this fantastic magician and actor who had trained with Meisner, so my training was as an actor with the magic being almost secondary. You had to learn how to do all these tricks, but they came alive as a piece of theater. The best magicians are always like that -- not that I'm saying I'm some fantastic magician or anything -- but my favorite magic to watch is like that. It's not just about, "Hey I've got this box, and I'm going to put this girl in the box, and I fooled you!" If it can be about something more than that, and if it can create emotions in you the way a piece of theater would, that's what you're really hoping for. ♦
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