Read on to find out as Movieline discusses all things Breaking Dawn with Condon -- Jacob Black's infamous imprinting scene, his Kristen Stewart crush, plans to visually represent the book's big showdown scene, potential Twilight spin-offs, the wedding dress, the film's rating, and whether or not fans need to see "full-on sex" in Breaking Dawn Pt. 1.
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I've seen every Twilight panel at Comic-Con over the years, and Kristen and Rob and Taylor really seemed more comfortable this time around.
Oh, good! Well, they're getting older, right?
What were your feelings coming to Comic-Con this year? Every Twilight director has made an appeal to fans when they come aboard the franchise, whether through open letters or otherwise, and Comic-Con is a huge opportunity to actually engage with the fans to reassure them.
Exactly. That's what's been the best part of it, I have to say. Part of it is like a junket day, but the other part is showing footage to all the fans in one place. And that's like having the best test screening you've ever imagined, really getting to expose it while we're still working on it! Getting to expose it to a crowd like that was really fun.
What current work are you doing on Breaking Dawn?
Finishing up the cut now. I'd say another two, three weeks. And we start scoring and mixing in September.
And the effects work?
God, no. Even the moon and all that stuff [seen in the Comic-Con clips] was temporary.
When you were first announced to direct Breaking Dawn, you seemed a bit of an unusual choice.
Yes, sure -- I hadn't done action before.
Not only that, but the idea that Bill Condon would want to direct a Twilight movie! What were the reasons you were interested in the job, and how did you go about convincing Summit you were the right director?
You'd have to talk with them but I think it was the connection to the material that I felt. Because it's all told from Bella's point of view, I don't know why I hook into her so much especially in this story. And my Kristen Stewart crush, you know? The idea that she was going to take this journey, I was really exciting to collaborate with her on that.
Before you got the Twilight gig, there were a few other directors' names being bandied about.
I have to say, I've since then read about Gus Van Sant [having been considered to direct Breaking Dawn]. I would love to see that movie.
Are you glad to have gotten to adapt Breaking Dawn as opposed to the other installments in the saga?
Yes, definitely. I feel like I cheated, you know?
You skipped to the end!
Right, totally! Because the other movies are so... very different. But I also know that when you write a script, the second act is always the tough one because it's where you've got to keep interest alive while not giving anything away and setting it up.
Breaking Dawn is also particularly challenging because, at least when I read it, I thought certain things and events might be unfilmable -- the invisible powers colliding in the ether and, well, imprinting. How did you figure out how to approach those elements cinematically?
I think with imprinting it's, more than anything, because the book does go into Jacob's point of view...
[An engine revving on the street below interrupts]
Is that Kellan? [Laughs] But imprinting -- I think it had to be told visually from Jacob's point of view, but Jacob as magic creature. That's the thing, that's what it represents. It's his magical wolf part that's being expressed there, it's not the guy who goes to high school and is on the reservation. Once you key into what the essential thing is, it helps to visualize it.
Are you using actual visual cues to represent the invisible forces between vampires in the stand-off scene?
On the field? Yeah, definitely. That's still a work in progress, but yeah.
In the Breaking Dawn press conference, you mentioned that you thought Stephenie Meyer might want to spin-off other Twilight characters into more stories. Can you elaborate on that?
Right. No, because that's just speculation. But when I've asked her, "Is it over?" she's been very definitive that it's the Bella-Edward thing. She's sure of that -- telling the Bella-Edward story is over for her. So that leaves you with the question... God knows, in Breaking Dawn alone, the numbers of characters she introduced. She could go in a lot of different directions.
What is your strategy in regards to what to show and what not to show to fans?
I know! Well, it was hard this time, because I think there are just basic things. You don't want to show Bella in the wedding dress...
Why?
Because we want to, as long as we can and I hope we can keep it until opening day! We want to keep it a surprise.
You went pretty long without even announcing the dress designer. So, until opening day, will you not reveal Bella's dress?
If we have our way, which you know will never happen. [Laughs] But I'm hoping! Certainly today in July, we're not going to show anything in the wedding dress, and I'm not going to show anything of her pregnant because that's a whole transformation that she goes through. So you take that out of the equation and for Bella and Edward there's really only the honeymoon, and for Jacob, it's really not that many scenes. So it wasn't really hard to figure out once you got to that point.
The Jacob scenes shown at Comic-Con were interesting because, as you mentioned on your panel, we'll see things that don't really happen in the book. How did you decide what to tweak?
I think it's just that, in a movie, you want to really concentrate things. It's all suggested in the book that once he breaks with Sam and the pack they have this threat now, but in the movie it becomes a clear idea that they [the Cullens] are under siege, and that Sam and the rest of the wolves are circling them, just waiting -- and that the Cullens haven't fed so they're hungry, they're weak. The wolves are either going to attack as soon as one of them leaves to feed, or they'll wait for them to get too weak. It's a real tension that builds up, it's a very strong suspense idea.
I like that Jacob's scene in the woods is evocative of a double agent reveal in a spy movie.
Exactly! And when you see it in the movie, you don't know -- Jacob might be telling the truth at that point.
There are so many iconic scenes in the book; how do you walk the line of romanticizing the feathers-at-the-honeymoon scene, or deciding how gory to go with the birth scene, in a PG-13 movie?
You know it's not going to be an R-rated movie, so it's a great challenge. How do you have the experience without having to be too explicit about it. I think that's not a hard thing to do. No one wants to see -- no one needs to see a full-on sex scene to have the incredibly intense experience that they're making love, you know? And it's more romantic. The same with the birth; I think it's very visceral, but it doesn't necessarily need close-ups of certain things.
Did you track the fan reaction when the honeymoon footage leaked?
Oh, yeah. That was upsetting.
I can imagine -- so much got out. But fans seemed to love what you did in that sex scene. Especially, if I may point out, the bed breaking glimpsed in the trailer. It's sexy.
[Laughs] I think it's good. I hope people feel that way.
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